link no longer exists!
ericRg, February 18, 2008 at 3:26:01 p.m.
You can send them a registered letter by threatening to seize the leadership of Competition, Consumption and Fraud Control.
http://www.finances.gouv.fr/DGCCRF/documentation/dossier_lit ¬ iges / dgccrf.htm Reply to
ericRg
Clhplong93, September 18, 2009 at 6:45:26 p.m.
Lyonnaise Guarantee was replaced by the company ITS new representative of GAN Eurocourtage with of OPEN MANAGEMENT, if your property is managed by Omnium. The Agent of
GAN Eurocourtage , with of Omnium Management Company is the ITS
Its coordinates:
Company
ITS Disaster Management Open
BP 50060 13742 Vitrolles CEDEX.
Tel: 04 42 89 69 12
Fax: 04 42 02 65 61
Email: @ sinistres.omnium sespartenaires.com
Good luck.
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Last Reply November 26, 2009 at 11:25:33 p.m. Godeleine, February 18 2008 at 11:33:18
Having invested by the Robien in housing that is rented through an estate agent, I am having problems with the Agent: I have purchased insurance tenant vacancy, deterioration (securimmo). The agency puts a lot of time to file the claim files. Rents sometimes fail (Pending CAF). I call them regularly, but without much success. The result is that I miss over the past year, half the income that was promised for this type of investment. I do not know what to do? thank you help me or send me the evidence.
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8 asa, October 1, 2009 at 9:35:56 p.m.
Hey everyone, I would spend the
Loved son and haul me led to ITS in July, then Open (so they said the dispute (unpaid tenant) then the full file (low rent)) because yes I accumulate a tenant who does not pay and now the apartment is not rented ( but there is hope). A priori
August ITS confirmed to me have sent all the documents in the file to vacation rental Open . These latter confirmed to me (mid August) have all the parts in hand and proceed very quickly to my compensation (probably in late August they said), or there in early October and still nothing. The rental vacancy
began to in April.
The people in the same situation as me have been compensated ( Open told me four months since that almost everyone has been compensated)? how?
thank you for your answers
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clhplong93 9, October 11, 2009 at 7:32:18 p.m.
Hello ASA.
You do not seem to see that the comments that you give are not in the right direction, without wishing to annoy you, but to help you. It
Open, which builds the file (in respect of the contract) and send it to the attorney within 75 days after the first outstanding (The Sté ITS today) then ITS after studying all the parts, accepts the case and rule Omnium Management and not the reverse
Today, and since January 2009, see July 2008, many owners are in the same case, ie no regulation of Omnium.
Explanation: The
Eurocourtage GAN, through its agent, the Lyonnaise guarantee, would have found an unprecedented rate, the number of files to be compensated. In the current to the year 2009, GAN Eurocourtage , decides to replace the Lyonnaise Guarantee by SE S, 2009. The company
ITS , has taken over the files open and in (and therefore before his arrival), and seems he has found in them, irregularities (usually unsent letters or sent after the deadline, the tenant.
Finally ITS found, can be good times, all reasons not met the insurance contract to lock the file. To believe that this company has been established for this purpose.
If you call They are very nice, but does not give you the answers above. (SES being an intermediary between and GAN Omnium we should not even know it exists).
Another explanation, that of Omnium, I site "In 2004 a special agreement was concluded between the GAN and Omnium Finance whereby Open take over the processing of litigation until the expulsion the tenant, with the establishment of a litigation procedure that shifts the delivery of pleadings. "
I quote: "The firm SES had apparently he not aware of that agreement, came to challenge his intended application and deny any compensation for unpaid rent on the ground that the pleadings would been issued late. "I quote:" The Directorate of product management at Open SES agreement. "
I still city" To this day, GAN and its agent reassessing all cases but do we provide little information. We réactualisons at the beginning of each month a statement of unpaid (accurate, I checked with SES) per file with the ITS representative. Always
of Omnium: We assure you that all the management teams of Omnium is mobilized since January, to cover the amounts owed to all our customers. Me my problem was in January 2008. I asked to receive this Agreement October 9, 2009: I wait
person whatsoever Open or GAN does not appear all white or all black in this case. By cons brown is us.
Hi Hi all ASA
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11 asa, October 11, 2009 at 10:30:48 p.m.
Thanks for your response,
actually I was not clear yet with the elements in my possession SES is well blocking now.
was missing because a document (certificate of discharge of the tenant) that Open sent in August (I ' have emails) (5 months after discharge: () and SES me said to have treated my case (because no more piece missing (I recordings) but I'm not part of the payment slip that 'they send Omnium
short, I have written evidence (Open) and recordings (SES) indicating clearly that they are lying and I do not respect the terms of contracts securimmo which I bought the retail .
is why I attack to justice soon.
CDLT
asa asa
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Clhplong93 13, October 14, 2009 at 2:18:11 p.m.
ASA Hello. I hope it's good to you that I answer.
You're in the same situation that many people, who I grant you, is no consolation.
Go to court immediately would lose money investing in the short term, because the GAN and Open are in court against one another, about ongoing cases.
time that justice has not settled the issue and rendered a final decision, nothing can succeed, for us small owners.
If you find a lawyer who is familiar with the different GAN and Omnium he will tell you. The problem for the lawyer will obtain information that is in the secret instruction. And these are not GAN or Open, which will tell the lawyer that they are wrong.
FYI, there is, or would exist after Open (info for Open mail of 06/10/2009 in my possession), an agreement was concluded in 2004 between the Gan and Open. These "agreements of 2004" would relate to different brothels of the contract value, moyennent of preferential prices for us.
in 2008, before a resurgence of claims, Open agent has changed, and it contains all the files from X months back (since January 2008 in my case). It blocks or processes as appropriate, but no compensation is reached, because no one reports that.
He, who established the record, it Open , who handed the Lyon and now ITS within 75 days after no more than 1 unpaid rent or vacancy of the tenant. Then the agent checks the validity of documents provided and paid compensation to or not Open, which continued his work as a manager. (In some cases, Open, failed to observe deadlines in the contract), which would be normal under this Agreement.
These agreements are not or would not be known nor the Gan, least of SES, or of conflict and blocking and little hope in the immediate Tenpa that justice has not established the truth in Open GAN dispute.
It keeps abreast
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14 asa, October 15, 2009 at 1:33:42 p.m.
Clhplong93 Hello and thank you for your info though:
1 - I need money
2 - companies that make profits owe me lots of money under a contract signed by both parties
3 - agreements in lieu of law (Article 1134 of the Civil Code)
4 - I'm not responsible the dispute between my agent (Open) and the insurer or its representative (SES)
=> I attack
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Clhplong93 17, October 19, 2009 at 5:06:34 p.m.
Hello ASA . The agreements are in lieu of law, when other laws do not contradict these conventions. For your money problems, you will not do your expenses increase, to get any result.
That you're not responsible for the dispute between your agent and your asureur is quite normal.
You seem to forget that depending on the limited information that the persons concerned may have on the dispute between the insurer and your agent, that this issue is precisely on these issues, namely the validity of the information these records contain missing parts or they should contain.
If you want to get something, make yourself nice to have all the cards in hand and especially the good ones. I do not think that alone and without counsel, you may do to the weight or to Open GAN , because who are you attacking GAN, Omnium or both.
If you have a lawyer, he does research and provide us with accurate information concerning the dispute GAN Open to trigger collective action.
Depending on what he may discover, I do not think waiting a summons immediately to anyone.
I could be wrong, at least I'll want for your wallet.
A lawyer will do what you said, but he will be what it takes??
Awaiting news of your attack
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Dansdu 22, October 27, 2009 at 9:58:14 p.m.
Clhplong93 Hello,
I was wondering if you had received from the Open Convention signed in 2004?
Have you news on the evolving situation between Omnium and GAN?
Thanks in advance for your reply, Best Regards
Dansdu
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3 Sophie, October 22, 2008 at 4:10:46 p.m.
Hello, I wanted you to know how you left it because I currently facing the same pbm for the same insurance and the same investment (Robien). Nobody in my apartment and I pay my credit every month and rents are not collected, how long it will take and it was your action? Thank you for your reply. Sincerely. Reply to Sophie SophieG
Godeleine 4, November 5, 2008 at 10:15:56
I am sorry to have to answer you that since February, the situation deteriorated further. A tenant has been there until June. Since the unit is vacant, I have received a sum of eight hundred euros in insurance. I have received a letter from the agent who tells me that I have exhausted entitlement to compensation (6 months warranty). So now nothing! In fact insurance, Lyon is the warranty, I called at least ten times to get the contract, I did not always. I 'd like and you probably also have the advice of a legal expert. Reply to
Godeleine
jey69 5, March 24, 2009 at 0:40:42
Hello, Have you
could solve your problem? Reply to
jey69
6 pacman, April 2, 2009 at 4:55:19 p.m.
Hello, I'm in the same case since July 2008. Effectively guarantee Lyon has a problem with the insurer EUROCOURTAGE (Lyon). This insurance block files that have too many accidents with non-paying tenants and parley with the intermediate Lyon guarantee saying that such and such thing missing folders to drag things. Why? maybe he plays with our money in the meantime?. I want to believe there to contentious issues, but this is not normal to block payments from other clients with which to record their been checked and validated as good despite minor hiccups, and some customers have been waiting for years repayment of unpaid rent!
If this is the business of insurance to take any risk at least incidents, and although I did insurer! Reply to
pacman
15 PIERROT, October 18, 2009 at 12:01:45
Hello, I'm
in the same situation as you, I have defaulted with a tenant. Lyonnaise warranty insurance owes me two years unpaid rent. Every time they say it lacks a document and this for over two years to save time. Indeed it seems that there is a dispute between Gan and La Lyonnaise and we toast ...
To this day I am preparing the summons with a lawyer to récupérerles € 20 000.
Anyway good advice it is imperative not to take insurance outstanding at the Lyonnaise guarantee. They're crooks ... At your disposal
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Pacman01 7, April 2, 2009 at 5:01:09 p.m.
Hello, I'm in the same case since July 2008. Effectively guarantee Lyon has a problem with the insurer EUROCOURTAGE (Lyon). This insurance block files that have too many accidents with non-payment tenants and parley with Lyon through the guarantee, saying that such and such thing missing folders to drag things. Why? maybe he plays with our money in the meantime?. I want to believe there to contentious issues, but this is not normal to block payments from other clients with which their record was checked and validated as good despite minor hiccups, and some customers been waiting for years for their refunds unpaid rent!
If this is the business of insurance to take any risk at least incidents, and although I did insurer!
PACMAN
Reply to Pacman01
Clhplong93 16, October 19, 2009 at 4:37:12 p.m.
Hello Sophie.
The situation remains unchanged, no rent, and tenant sued.
I was there the day of the hearing, for my personal info, Open have instructed a lawyer to represent us (October 16, 2009 at 9am in Toulouse). The tenant had sent an information to the President of the Tribunal d'Instance, an excuse for absence, namely, a stay in the hospital. Result, case adjourned to November 6, 2009.
Anyway, even if the tenant had been present, the Tribunal will render its decision within 30 days after the hearing.
In 30 days we will be in winter, it will be impossible to deport him, and meanwhile, people who work honestly and earn enough to pay rent, sleep in their cars or worse in the street during fénéants as warm and sleep for free free cool owner who does not want to rent or more at full price only to sort through tenants. Good day
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10 asa, October 11, 2009 at 10:14:11 p.m.
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clhplong93 Hello,
advised by UFC I sent the recommended that goes from formal payment for omnium
no response from them within 1 week now will address Open not in any way responsible dispute omnium-GAN (SES) about me being the consequence well beyond the non-reimbursement of expenses (but go on, and I do not), I still hesitate to attack
a lawyer with private business rather that UFC that to go faster advises me not to seek a Initially a repair for less than 4000 euros to spend before a local court.
I am since my surgery) came in contact with several people who attack omnium by private lawyers.
well you
asa asa
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dansdu 19, October 25, 2009 at 8:59:50 p.m.
•
Hello Asa
I'm in the same case as you.
I own an apartment in Val Lognes managed by Reed Omnium and ensures the GAN / SES with the famous insurance unpaid rents.
Since January 09, my tenant has rent regulation concerns and today I am a 3500euros of my pocket.
Omnium and GAN pass the buck on the unpaid rent insurance with a rating Open which tells me it is the fault of GAN which is a blockage and the other side ITS who said that the documents (up letter / order for payment) were not sent within the periods specified in the contract, which is true! I questioned my
Legal Protection advises me to send a letter to the RAR GAN and OMNIUM to get a clear answer of 2 parts.
Then I think I'll sue for breach of contract terms. To me the fault is a Open.
In your opinion is what it's worth? because I'm afraid that my procedure is attached to the procedure / instruction in progress and it does not go faster.
More is that somebody has heard of the SLF files for the tenant in place. I was told that as I have insurance it is not possible to make a SLF file ....?? Do you have any info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Good luck to all, Regards
Dansdu
Reply to dansdu
edo 33, November 18, 2009 at 6:16:47 p.m.
•
Month so I'm in the same case, unpaid rent and impossible to know if OMNIUM has arranged with GAN (I asked for copies of RAR insurance claims and no response) You mean your
making contact with other People who attack OMNIUM by lawyers would not it interesting to come together to pool the costs and make common cause?
Reply to edo
12 pacman, October 13, 2009 at 11:58:32 p.m.
• Hello everyone, since January 2009 is still no news of reimbursement of unpaid rent from my tenant who now is left after passing the court that in fact no new crossing no longer the result of the court!
No news of omnium
No news of lymph
No new court
To believe that there more people and I live on a planet virtual!
One thing is on for those who still doubt
DO NOT CHOOSE OPEN AS PROVIDER AND GAN
Fuyer = LACK BIG AND SCRAMBLED
Pacman
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sakaipeint 28, the October 31, 2009 at 4:34:12 p.m.
• I'm in exactly the same case as you. No compensation since January move to court last September no news. The icing on the cake 3 monthly payments overdue Land Bank warned that the situation had since pl'un a year but they are bad bounded officials and their only response is a FILING BoF. Bravo is unthinkable I will try an individual action from the judge. Reply to
sakaipeint
18 AGM, October 23, 2009 at 10:09:46
You must take action in court but with all the owners are also confronted with problems. BON COURAGE
Reply to AGA
kristo03 20, October 26, 2009 at 1:20:21 p.m.
• Hello everybody, I'm also a
owner disappointed, I would say completely destroyed. For over a year according to my tenant of Omnium has a status of good moral character forgets every month I pay rent.
I apply for a warrant of sale OMNIUM that I always failed, my question is simply what happens if I sell my property purchased on the process of robien? I'm exhausted and I also propose that we exchange all our e-mail, maybe it should create a homeowners association and attack all those who have no qualms about we get money because again we are alone accountable for their mismanagement ...
well you
C MEUNIER
Reply to kristo03
dansdu 21, October 26, 2009 at 2:36:24 p.m. •
kristo03 Hello,
I do not know the procedure for reclassification of property tax Robien but I think it will reintegrate your tax deductions in your tax amount. Maybe we can smooth this over several years. Have not you
insurance with rent unpaid GAN? Is this the same problem I have is that the parts are supposedly not been submitted in time?
Thanks and see you soon, Regards
Dansdu
Reply to dansdu
pitchounette 37, November 26, 2009 at 4:04:27 p.m.
• • •
•
That's how you my friend is all in the same situation as you, I just spent my afternoon on the phone between Omnium, and Gan and its people are responsible and I'm not in the good service .....
of today GAN have over 2500 Euros to my friends not to mention that we have two children and everything to hand, then we can repay all mensualitées today if we do not 700 Euros in the bank my friend will be stuck BDF ... It's Christmas in a month and what shall we give children a letter like what Gan does not want to make our money ...
I propose that we bring together all métions complaint for breach of insurance contract, with a total demand of more REIMBURSEM ajios, moral injury and everything that can be with ... That really ought to move it all and as soon as possible ... Thank you for responding even on my mail.
Good luck to all.
Miss Le Guillou for Mr. Miller (my husband)
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40 The Newshound, December 17, 2009 at 8:34:44
•
THE CUT Cannard
Journal satirical appearing Wednesday
92nd YEAR - 1.20 € newsstand. Find the nearest booth on www.trouverlapresse.com
True to counterfeit scam HLM
Fuyer = LACK BIG AND SCRAMBLED
Pacman
Reply to pacman
sakaipeint 28, the October 31, 2009 at 4:34:12 p.m.
• I'm in exactly the same case as you. No compensation since January move to court last September no news. The icing on the cake 3 monthly payments overdue Land Bank warned that the situation had since pl'un a year but they are bad bounded officials and their only response is a FILING BoF. Bravo is unthinkable I will try an individual action from the judge. Reply to
sakaipeint
18 AGM, October 23, 2009 at 10:09:46
You must take action in court but with all the owners are also confronted with problems. BON COURAGE
Reply to AGA
kristo03 20, October 26, 2009 at 1:20:21 p.m.
• Hello everybody, I'm also a
owner disappointed, I would say completely destroyed. For over a year according to my tenant of Omnium has a status of good moral character forgets every month I pay rent.
I apply for a warrant of sale OMNIUM that I always failed, my question is simply what happens if I sell my property purchased on the process of robien? I'm exhausted and I also propose that we exchange all our e-mail, maybe it should create a homeowners association and attack all those who have no qualms about we get money because again we are alone accountable for their mismanagement ...
well you
C MEUNIER
Reply to kristo03
dansdu 21, October 26, 2009 at 2:36:24 p.m. •
kristo03 Hello,
I do not know the procedure for reclassification of property tax Robien but I think it will reintegrate your tax deductions in your tax amount. Maybe we can smooth this over several years. Have not you
insurance with rent unpaid GAN? Is this the same problem I have is that the parts are supposedly not been submitted in time?
Thanks and see you soon, Regards
Dansdu
Reply to dansdu
pitchounette 37, November 26, 2009 at 4:04:27 p.m.
• • •
•
That's how you my friend is all in the same situation as you, I just spent my afternoon on the phone between Omnium, and Gan and its people are responsible and I'm not in the good service .....
of today GAN have over 2500 Euros to my friends not to mention that we have two children and everything to hand, then we can repay all mensualitées today if we do not 700 Euros in the bank my friend will be stuck BDF ... It's Christmas in a month and what shall we give children a letter like what Gan does not want to make our money ...
I propose that we bring together all métions complaint for breach of insurance contract, with a total demand of more REIMBURSEM ajios, moral injury and everything that can be with ... That really ought to move it all and as soon as possible ... Thank you for responding even on my mail.
Good luck to all.
Miss Le Guillou for Mr. Miller (my husband)
Reply to pitchounette
40 The Newshound, December 17, 2009 at 8:34:44
•
THE CUT Cannard
Journal satirical appearing Wednesday
92nd YEAR - 1.20 € newsstand. Find the nearest booth on www.trouverlapresse.com
True to counterfeit scam HLM
A property developer has found a fine trick to get a building permit: HLM promise a quota, and sweet, while the private sale.
Open Finance, a box created by a developer Toulouse, Xavier Chausson, request a permit to build 130 apartments Saint André-lez-Lille (North).
Okay meets the town hall, but on one condition: you will sell 20% of these dwellings to public housing landlords, or 27 apartments. High-Five! The site
buggers and ends in the summer last. Surprise: the mayor learns that the developer has sold all the apartments to individuals, and no social landlords in the area. There will be zero
HLM. And it is too late to catch the shot. The sponsor took the butter - the building permit - in s'assaillant on the consideration.
HLM. And it is too late to catch the shot. The sponsor took the butter - the building permit - in s'assaillant on the consideration.
"We offered to buy up to 1,900 euros per square meter," says Arnaud Delaney, CEO of Our Logis , one of the HLM companies interested in the transaction. Alas, instead of dealing with these mowed, our sponsor for unloading everything at high prices to particular : 3000 euros per square meter. 1100 is better than the proposed corporate HLM
On 27 units of 50 square meters on average, that's 1.5 million more at least. Mayor's Fury, Olivier Henno , which displays everything in the local press. Since then, Omnium Finance, which is already under a criminal investigation in Toulouse for another case, made a smart proposition donate 400,000 euros to the city and built 27 housing units. Which will take at least two or three years. "They'll say yes, it will be shorter than a trial," sighs the mayor.
Hand on heart, the promoter swear that this misuse of the building permit is a simple mistake. Everything would "fault" of a single collaborator which would have taken it upon himself to make lots of dough in the box.
It will be fired for gross misconduct profitable?
IB
NB As usual, the group Open he will file a complaint for defamation as he did against the newspaper 20 Minutes and President ADIM association. See the articles below:
http://defiscalisation-sos-robien-borlo-zrr-lmnp.over-blog.c ¬ om /
IB
NB As usual, the group Open he will file a complaint for defamation as he did against the newspaper 20 Minutes and President ADIM association. See the articles below:
http://defiscalisation-sos-robien-borlo-zrr-lmnp.over-blog.c ¬ om /
